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	*The "white Lamanite" named Zelph.}}		*The "white Lamanite" named Zelph.
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	*For surveys of the primary sources on Zelph, see Donald Q. Cannon,		*For surveys of the primary sources on Zelph, see Donald Q. Cannon,
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	*Joseph stated that the Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western Tribes of Indians and that the Land of America is a promised land.		*Joseph stated that the Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western Tribes of Indians and that the Land of America is a promised land.
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	*Joseph Smith to N. C. Saxton, 4 January 1833, Joseph Smith Letter Book 1, p. 17 (the r in “tribes of Indians” is dotted like an i), Joseph Smith Collection, LDS Church Archives, Salt Lake City, available on Selected Collections from the Archives of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 2002), DVD 20; see also Dean C. Jessee, comp. and ed., The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith, 2nd ed. (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2002),		*Joseph Smith to N. C. Saxton, 4 January 1833, Joseph Smith Letter Book 1, p. 17 (the r in “tribes of Indians” is dotted like an i), Joseph Smith Collection, LDS Church Archives, Salt Lake City, available on Selected Collections from the Archives of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 2002), DVD 20; see also Dean C. Jessee, comp. and ed., The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith, 2nd ed. (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2002), 297.
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	And behold, it is wisdom that ''this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations''; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance. Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a promise, that inasmuch as ''those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem'' shall keep his commandments, they shall prosper upon the face of this land; and ''they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves'' . . . and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their inheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever. {{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8-9}}		And behold, it is wisdom that ''this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations''; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance. Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a promise, that inasmuch as ''those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem'' shall keep his commandments, they shall prosper upon the face of this land; and ''they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves'' . . . and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their inheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever. {{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8-9}}
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	*2 Ne. 1:8–9; see also John C. Kunich, “Multiply Exceedingly: Book of Mormon Population Sizes,” ''New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology'', ed. Brent Lee Metcalfe (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1993), 261–62.		*2 Ne. 1:8–9; see also John C. Kunich, “Multiply Exceedingly: Book of Mormon Population Sizes,” ''New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology'', ed. Brent Lee Metcalfe (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1993), 261–62.
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	*The "land of Jerusalem" is a very small geographical area, yet Lehi's promised land is completely undefined in scope. The author applies the term "land" to mean the entire North and South American landmass. Is it really reasonable to assume that there would be "no place for an inheritance" '' on two continents'' for Lehi's people if anyone else was inhabiting the America's at the time?		*The "land of Jerusalem" is a very small geographical area, yet Lehi's promised land is completely undefined in scope. The author applies the term "land" to mean the entire North and South American landmass. Is it really reasonable to assume that there would be "no place for an inheritance" '' on two continents'' for Lehi's people if anyone else was inhabiting the America's at the time?
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	*The author argues that LDS scholars or apologists are "shrinking and diluting" their view on the Book of Mormon because they are being driven back in a rear-guard action by science. But, in fact, some LDS leaders and scholars have argued for a restricted geography and small numeric contribution of Lehites for over one hundred years. These beliefs were not held because of scientific "pressure," but because of their reading of the Book of Mormon text.		*The author argues that LDS scholars or apologists are "shrinking and diluting" their view on the Book of Mormon because they are being driven back in a rear-guard action by science. But, in fact, some LDS leaders and scholars have argued for a restricted geography and small numeric contribution of Lehites for over one hundred years. These beliefs were not held because of scientific "pressure," but because of their reading of the Book of Mormon text.
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	*This is based upon a phrase added in the 1981 introduction to the Book of Mormon.		*This is based upon a phrase added in the 1981 introduction to the Book of Mormon.
	*The 1830 Book of Mormon contains no such claim.		*The 1830 Book of Mormon contains no such claim.
	*{{Detail\|Search for the Truth DVD:DNA#Claim: "The introduction to the Book of Mormon says after thousands of years all were destroyed except the Lamanites and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians." - Pamela Robertson\|Are the Lamanites the principal ancestors of the American Indians?\|~~l1Are~~ the Lamanites the principal ancestors of the American Indians?}}		*{{Detail\|Search for the Truth DVD:DNA#Claim: "The introduction to the Book of Mormon says after thousands of years all were destroyed except the Lamanites and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians." - Pamela Robertson\|Are the Lamanites the principal ancestors of the American Indians?\|l1=Are the Lamanites the principal ancestors of the American Indians?}}
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	*Nephi talks of the Gentiles coming upon the land of promise and scattering the seed of his brethren.		{{Claim\|Nephi talks of the Gentiles coming upon the land of promise and scattering the seed of his brethren.}}
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	*This passage is often interpreted to mean the arrival of Europeans and their subsequent scattering of existing Native American populations.		*This passage is often interpreted to mean the arrival of Europeans and their subsequent scattering of existing Native American populations.

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	*The author ~~goes on, quoting~~ 2 Nephi 1:10-11, to note that the Lord would bring others nations to "take away from them the lands of their possessions" and cause them to be "scattered and smitten" when they "dwindled in unbelief."		{{Heading2\|The author quotes 2 Nephi 1:10-11, to note that the Lord would bring others nations to "take away from them the lands of their possessions" and cause them to be "scattered and smitten" when they "dwindled in unbelief."}}
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