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<p>GabrielAlmeida: /* */</p> <hr /> <div><br /> <br /> <br /> {{cabeçalho <br /> |link= Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade<br /> |assunto= Historicidade do Livro de Mórmon <br /> |resumo= <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Calendar-<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon calendar is not identical to the calendar used by modern peoples. Learn about Nephite calendar(s) here. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Was the idea of a &quot;week&quot; unknown in the Americas?—<br /> | resumo = Despite claims to the contrary, there is evidence for a seven-day week among the early Maya, though the Book of Mormon does not require such a correlation. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Historicity—<br /> | resumo = Several efforts have been made to &quot;prove&quot; that what the Book of Mormon has to say about the history of the new world cannot possibly have been the case. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Warfare in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = Some criticisms of Book of Mormon warfare are anachronistic; other elements of Book of Mormon warfare contain authentic ancient elements about which Joseph Smith could not have known. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Evidences—<br /> | resumo = Summary page for evidences supporting the Book of Mormon. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Olive culture—<br /> | resumo = Does the Book of Mormon's account of olive culture in Jacob 5 match what we know about this subject? The Book of Mormon provides a remarkably accurate portrait of olive horticulture. There are two points at which the allegory/parable deviates from the known principles of growing olives; in both cases, the allegory's characters draw the reader's attention to these deviations with some amazement. Thus, these 'mistakes' play a dramatic role in demonstrating the allegory/parable's meaning. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Book of Mormon geography in the Old World—<br /> | resumo = A discussion of the Arabian, or Old World, geography of the Book of Mormon enjoys many advantages over discussion of New World matters. Chief among these is the fact that we know we certainty where the story begins—in Old World Jerusalem. The details of Lehi's desert travels had been extracted from the text by the 1970s. It is important to note how early these models were developed; current-day critics sometimes charge that LDS scholars have &quot;retrofitted&quot; their models to accommodate chance discoveries like &quot;Nahom,&quot; but this is false. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Hebraisms in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon does indeed have authentic Semitic constructions in it, but LDS need to tread cautiously in establishing them. Each must be evaluated on its own merits. Hebraisms that could have been known to Joseph Smith may still be authentic, and may still enhance our appreciation of the text, but they are weak evidence for Book of Mormon antiquity. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = If-and conditionals—<br /> | resumo = The first edition of the Book of Mormon contained several examples of a grammatical structure not known in English, but common in Hebrew: the so-called if/and conditional. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Names: authentic Old World names in the Book of Mormon <br /> | resumo = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Chiasmus—<br /> | resumo = A literary structure known as &quot;chiasmus&quot; exists in the Book of Mormon. It is claimed that the presence of chiasmus in the Book of Mormon is either coincidental, an artifact of the observer, or not impressive since examples of chiastic patterns have been found in the Doctrine and Covenants or other 19th century writing. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Sami Hanna on the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = I have read a talk written by Elder Russell M. Nelson in which he discusses a friend of his who translated the Book of Mormon back into Arabic. What are the facts behind this story and the talk?<br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{Articles Footer 1}}<br /> [[en:Book of Mormon/Historicity of the Book of Mormon]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon/Historicidade&diff=79434 2014-07-27T15:34:28Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: </p> <hr /> <div>== ==<br /> <br /> {{Tópicos rótulo}} <br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt; <br /> <br /> {{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título do recurso|O Livro de Mórmon/Historicidade}}<br /> {{resumo dos assuntos}}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{cabeçalho <br /> |link= Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade<br /> |assunto= Historicidade do Livro de Mórmon <br /> |resumo= <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Calendar-<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon calendar is not identical to the calendar used by modern peoples. Learn about Nephite calendar(s) here. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Was the idea of a &quot;week&quot; unknown in the Americas?—<br /> | resumo = Despite claims to the contrary, there is evidence for a seven-day week among the early Maya, though the Book of Mormon does not require such a correlation. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Historicity—<br /> | resumo = Several efforts have been made to &quot;prove&quot; that what the Book of Mormon has to say about the history of the new world cannot possibly have been the case. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Warfare in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = Some criticisms of Book of Mormon warfare are anachronistic; other elements of Book of Mormon warfare contain authentic ancient elements about which Joseph Smith could not have known. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Evidences—<br /> | resumo = Summary page for evidences supporting the Book of Mormon. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Olive culture—<br /> | resumo = Does the Book of Mormon's account of olive culture in Jacob 5 match what we know about this subject? The Book of Mormon provides a remarkably accurate portrait of olive horticulture. There are two points at which the allegory/parable deviates from the known principles of growing olives; in both cases, the allegory's characters draw the reader's attention to these deviations with some amazement. Thus, these 'mistakes' play a dramatic role in demonstrating the allegory/parable's meaning. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Book of Mormon geography in the Old World—<br /> | resumo = A discussion of the Arabian, or Old World, geography of the Book of Mormon enjoys many advantages over discussion of New World matters. Chief among these is the fact that we know we certainty where the story begins—in Old World Jerusalem. The details of Lehi's desert travels had been extracted from the text by the 1970s. It is important to note how early these models were developed; current-day critics sometimes charge that LDS scholars have &quot;retrofitted&quot; their models to accommodate chance discoveries like &quot;Nahom,&quot; but this is false. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Hebraisms in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon does indeed have authentic Semitic constructions in it, but LDS need to tread cautiously in establishing them. Each must be evaluated on its own merits. Hebraisms that could have been known to Joseph Smith may still be authentic, and may still enhance our appreciation of the text, but they are weak evidence for Book of Mormon antiquity. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = If-and conditionals—<br /> | resumo = The first edition of the Book of Mormon contained several examples of a grammatical structure not known in English, but common in Hebrew: the so-called if/and conditional. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Names: authentic Old World names in the Book of Mormon <br /> | resumo = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Chiasmus—<br /> | resumo = A literary structure known as &quot;chiasmus&quot; exists in the Book of Mormon. It is claimed that the presence of chiasmus in the Book of Mormon is either coincidental, an artifact of the observer, or not impressive since examples of chiastic patterns have been found in the Doctrine and Covenants or other 19th century writing. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Sami Hanna on the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = I have read a talk written by Elder Russell M. Nelson in which he discusses a friend of his who translated the Book of Mormon back into Arabic. What are the facts behind this story and the talk?<br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{Articles Footer 1}}<br /> [[en:Book of Mormon/Historicity of the Book of Mormon]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon/Historicidade&diff=79433 2014-07-27T15:26:38Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: /* */</p> <hr /> <div>{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título do recurso|O Livro de Mórmon/Historicidade}}<br /> {{resumo dos assuntos}}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{cabeçalho <br /> |link= Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade<br /> |assunto= Historicidade do Livro de Mórmon <br /> |resumo= <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Calendar-<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon calendar is not identical to the calendar used by modern peoples. Learn about Nephite calendar(s) here. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Was the idea of a &quot;week&quot; unknown in the Americas?—<br /> | resumo = Despite claims to the contrary, there is evidence for a seven-day week among the early Maya, though the Book of Mormon does not require such a correlation. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Historicity—<br /> | resumo = Several efforts have been made to &quot;prove&quot; that what the Book of Mormon has to say about the history of the new world cannot possibly have been the case. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Warfare in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = Some criticisms of Book of Mormon warfare are anachronistic; other elements of Book of Mormon warfare contain authentic ancient elements about which Joseph Smith could not have known. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Evidences—<br /> | resumo = Summary page for evidences supporting the Book of Mormon. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Olive culture—<br /> | resumo = Does the Book of Mormon's account of olive culture in Jacob 5 match what we know about this subject? The Book of Mormon provides a remarkably accurate portrait of olive horticulture. There are two points at which the allegory/parable deviates from the known principles of growing olives; in both cases, the allegory's characters draw the reader's attention to these deviations with some amazement. Thus, these 'mistakes' play a dramatic role in demonstrating the allegory/parable's meaning. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Book of Mormon geography in the Old World—<br /> | resumo = A discussion of the Arabian, or Old World, geography of the Book of Mormon enjoys many advantages over discussion of New World matters. Chief among these is the fact that we know we certainty where the story begins—in Old World Jerusalem. The details of Lehi's desert travels had been extracted from the text by the 1970s. It is important to note how early these models were developed; current-day critics sometimes charge that LDS scholars have &quot;retrofitted&quot; their models to accommodate chance discoveries like &quot;Nahom,&quot; but this is false. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Hebraisms in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon does indeed have authentic Semitic constructions in it, but LDS need to tread cautiously in establishing them. Each must be evaluated on its own merits. Hebraisms that could have been known to Joseph Smith may still be authentic, and may still enhance our appreciation of the text, but they are weak evidence for Book of Mormon antiquity. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = If-and conditionals—<br /> | resumo = The first edition of the Book of Mormon contained several examples of a grammatical structure not known in English, but common in Hebrew: the so-called if/and conditional. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Names: authentic Old World names in the Book of Mormon <br /> | resumo = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Chiasmus—<br /> | resumo = A literary structure known as &quot;chiasmus&quot; exists in the Book of Mormon. It is claimed that the presence of chiasmus in the Book of Mormon is either coincidental, an artifact of the observer, or not impressive since examples of chiastic patterns have been found in the Doctrine and Covenants or other 19th century writing. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Sami Hanna on the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = I have read a talk written by Elder Russell M. Nelson in which he discusses a friend of his who translated the Book of Mormon back into Arabic. What are the facts behind this story and the talk?<br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{Articles Footer 1}}<br /> [[en:Book of Mormon/Historicity of the Book of Mormon]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon/Historicidade&diff=79432 2014-07-27T04:11:28Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: </p> <hr /> <div>{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título do recurso|O Livro de Mórmon/Historicidade}}<br /> {{resumo dos assuntos}}<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> <br /> {{Tópicos rótulo}} <br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt; <br /> {{cabeçalho <br /> |link= Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade<br /> |assunto= Historicidade do Livro de Mórmon <br /> |resumo= <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Calendar-<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon calendar is not identical to the calendar used by modern peoples. Learn about Nephite calendar(s) here. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Was the idea of a &quot;week&quot; unknown in the Americas?—<br /> | resumo = Despite claims to the contrary, there is evidence for a seven-day week among the early Maya, though the Book of Mormon does not require such a correlation. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Historicity—<br /> | resumo = Several efforts have been made to &quot;prove&quot; that what the Book of Mormon has to say about the history of the new world cannot possibly have been the case. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Warfare in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = Some criticisms of Book of Mormon warfare are anachronistic; other elements of Book of Mormon warfare contain authentic ancient elements about which Joseph Smith could not have known. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Evidences—<br /> | resumo = Summary page for evidences supporting the Book of Mormon. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Olive culture—<br /> | resumo = Does the Book of Mormon's account of olive culture in Jacob 5 match what we know about this subject? The Book of Mormon provides a remarkably accurate portrait of olive horticulture. There are two points at which the allegory/parable deviates from the known principles of growing olives; in both cases, the allegory's characters draw the reader's attention to these deviations with some amazement. Thus, these 'mistakes' play a dramatic role in demonstrating the allegory/parable's meaning. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Book of Mormon geography in the Old World—<br /> | resumo = A discussion of the Arabian, or Old World, geography of the Book of Mormon enjoys many advantages over discussion of New World matters. Chief among these is the fact that we know we certainty where the story begins—in Old World Jerusalem. The details of Lehi's desert travels had been extracted from the text by the 1970s. It is important to note how early these models were developed; current-day critics sometimes charge that LDS scholars have &quot;retrofitted&quot; their models to accommodate chance discoveries like &quot;Nahom,&quot; but this is false. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Hebraisms in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon does indeed have authentic Semitic constructions in it, but LDS need to tread cautiously in establishing them. Each must be evaluated on its own merits. Hebraisms that could have been known to Joseph Smith may still be authentic, and may still enhance our appreciation of the text, but they are weak evidence for Book of Mormon antiquity. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = If-and conditionals—<br /> | resumo = The first edition of the Book of Mormon contained several examples of a grammatical structure not known in English, but common in Hebrew: the so-called if/and conditional. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Names: authentic Old World names in the Book of Mormon <br /> | resumo = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Chiasmus—<br /> | resumo = A literary structure known as &quot;chiasmus&quot; exists in the Book of Mormon. It is claimed that the presence of chiasmus in the Book of Mormon is either coincidental, an artifact of the observer, or not impressive since examples of chiastic patterns have been found in the Doctrine and Covenants or other 19th century writing. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Sami Hanna on the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = I have read a talk written by Elder Russell M. Nelson in which he discusses a friend of his who translated the Book of Mormon back into Arabic. What are the facts behind this story and the talk?<br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{Articles Footer 1}}<br /> [[en:Book of Mormon/Historicity of the Book of Mormon]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon/Historicidade&diff=79431 2014-07-27T03:09:25Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: Criou página com: &#039;{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}} {{título do recurso|O Livro de Mórmon/Historicidade}} {{resumo dos assuntos}} == == {{Tópicos rótulo}} &lt;onlyinclude&gt; {{cabeç...&#039;</p> <hr /> <div>{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título do recurso|O Livro de Mórmon/Historicidade}}<br /> {{resumo dos assuntos}}<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> <br /> {{Tópicos rótulo}} <br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt; <br /> {{cabeçalho <br /> |link= Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade<br /> |assunto= Historicidade do Livro de Mórmon <br /> |resumo= <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Calendar-<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon calendar is not identical to the calendar used by modern peoples. Learn about Nephite calendar(s) here. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Was the idea of a &quot;week&quot; unknown in the Americas?—<br /> | resumo = Despite claims to the contrary, there is evidence for a seven-day week among the early Maya, though the Book of Mormon does not require such a correlation. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Historicity—<br /> | resumo = Several efforts have been made to &quot;prove&quot; that what the Book of Mormon has to say about the history of the new world cannot possibly have been the case. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Warfare in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = Some criticisms of Book of Mormon warfare are anachronistic; other elements of Book of Mormon warfare contain authentic ancient elements about which Joseph Smith could not have known. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Evidences—<br /> | resumo = Summary page for evidences supporting the Book of Mormon. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Olive culture—<br /> | resumo = Does the Book of Mormon's account of olive culture in Jacob 5 match what we know about this subject? The Book of Mormon provides a remarkably accurate portrait of olive horticulture. There are two points at which the allegory/parable deviates from the known principles of growing olives; in both cases, the allegory's characters draw the reader's attention to these deviations with some amazement. Thus, these 'mistakes' play a dramatic role in demonstrating the allegory/parable's meaning. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Book of Mormon geography in the Old World—<br /> | resumo = A discussion of the Arabian, or Old World, geography of the Book of Mormon enjoys many advantages over discussion of New World matters. Chief among these is the fact that we know we certainty where the story begins—in Old World Jerusalem. The details of Lehi's desert travels had been extracted from the text by the 1970s. It is important to note how early these models were developed; current-day critics sometimes charge that LDS scholars have &quot;retrofitted&quot; their models to accommodate chance discoveries like &quot;Nahom,&quot; but this is false. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Hebraisms in the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = The Book of Mormon does indeed have authentic Semitic constructions in it, but LDS need to tread cautiously in establishing them. Each must be evaluated on its own merits. Hebraisms that could have been known to Joseph Smith may still be authentic, and may still enhance our appreciation of the text, but they are weak evidence for Book of Mormon antiquity. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = If-and conditionals—<br /> | resumo = The first edition of the Book of Mormon contained several examples of a grammatical structure not known in English, but common in Hebrew: the so-called if/and conditional. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Names: authentic Old World names in the Book of Mormon <br /> | resumo = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Chiasmus—<br /> | resumo = A literary structure known as &quot;chiasmus&quot; exists in the Book of Mormon. It is claimed that the presence of chiasmus in the Book of Mormon is either coincidental, an artifact of the observer, or not impressive since examples of chiastic patterns have been found in the Doctrine and Covenants or other 19th century writing. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{resumo <br /> | link = Livro de Mórmon / Historicidade <br /> | assunto = Sami Hanna on the Book of Mormon—<br /> | resumo = I have read a talk written by Elder Russell M. Nelson in which he discusses a friend of his who translated the Book of Mormon back into Arabic. What are the facts behind this story and the talk?<br /> }}</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon/Tradu%C3%A7%C3%A3o/Pedra_vidente&diff=79390 2014-07-21T23:19:34Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Articles FAIR copyright}} {{Articles Header 1}} {{Articles Header 2}} {{Articles Header 3}} {{Articles Header 4}} {{Articles Header 5}} {{Articles Header 6}} {{Articles Header 7}} {{Articles Header 8}} {{Articles Header 9}} {{Articles Header 10}}<br /> {{JosephSmithPortal}}<br /> {{question}}<br /> ==Questions==<br /> * O que você pode me dizer sobre pedra de vidência de José? Qual é sua relação com o &quot;Urim e Tumim&quot;? <br /> * Será que Joseph colocava sua pedra de vidência em seu chapéu enquanto ele estava traduzindo o Livro de Mórmon? <br /> <br /> {{CriticalSources}}<br /> <br /> =={{Response label}}== <br /> {{Epigraph| Para ajudá-lo com a tradução, Joseph encontrado com as placas de ouro. &quot;Um instrumento curioso, que os antigos chamavam de Urim e Tumim, que consistia de duas pedras transparentes em uma borda de um arco preso a um peitoral&quot; Joseph também utilizava, uma rocha marrom em forma de ovo para traduzir chamado de pedra de vidência.” &lt;br&gt;&amp;mdash; “A Peaceful Heart,” ''Friend'', Sep 1974, 7 {{Link|url=http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=5250e07368d9b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=21bc9fbee98db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD}}}}<br /> {{parabreak}}<br /> <br /> === Joseph como o vidente do vilarejo === <br /> Brant Gardner esclarece o papel que Joseph e sua pedra desempenharam dentro da comunidade de Palmyra, <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt; <br /> O jovem Joseph Smith era um membro de uma sub-comunidade especializada com laços com estas práticas muito antigas e muito respeitados, embora no início dos anos 1800 que foram respeitados apenas por um segmento marginalizado da sociedade. Ele exibiu um talento paralelo com outras pessoas nas comunidades similares. Mesmo em Palmyra, ele não foi o único. Nas palavras de D. Michael Quinn: &quot;Até o Livro de Mórmon impulso jovem Smith em destaque, vidente mais notável de Palmyra foi Sally Chase, que usaram uma pedra esverdeada William Stafford também tinha uma pedra de vidência e Joshua Stafford tinha um &quot;peepstone que parecia de mármore branco e tinha um buraco no centro. &quot;[9] Richard Bushman acrescenta Chauncy Hart, e um homem não identificado em Susquehanna County, ambos os quais tinham pedras com as quais eles foram encontrados objetos perdidos. [10] {{ref | gardner1}} <br /> &lt;/ blockquote&gt; <br /> <br /> Durante seu mandato como uma &quot;aldeia vidente&quot;, Joseph adquiriu várias pedras de vidente. Joseph usou pela primeira vez uma pedra vidente vizinho (provavelmente que pertencer a Palmyra vidente Sally Chase, sobre o saldo de evidência histórica, apesar de existirem outras possibilidades) para descobrir a localização de um marrom, pedra do bebê em forma de pé. A visão desta pedra provavelmente ocorreu por volta de 1819-1820, e ele obteve sua primeira pedra de vidente em cerca de 1821-1822 {{ref | mcgee1}}. <br /> <br /> Joseph, então, usou esta primeira pedra para encontrar uma segunda pedra (uma branca). A segunda pedra de vidente teria sido encontrado na propriedade de perseguição de William em 1822 como perseguição descreveu: <br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt; <br /> No ano de 1822, eu estava empenhado em cavar um poço. Eu empregados Alvin e Joseph Smith para me ajudar .... Depois de cavar cerca de vinte metros abaixo da superfície da terra, descobrimos um singularmente pedra aparecendo, o que excitou a minha curiosidade. Eu trouxe-a para o topo do poço, e como estávamos examinando-o, Joseph colocá-lo em seu chapéu, e então seu rosto no topo do seu chapéu .... Na manhã seguinte, ele veio a mim, e desejava obter a pedra, alegando que ele poderia ver nele; mas eu disse a ele que não queria participar com ele por conta de ser uma curiosidade, mas eu gostaria de emprestá-lo {{ref | chase1}}. <br /> &lt;/ blockquote&gt; <br /> <br /> Gardner continua, <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt; <br /> Joseph Smith, muito antes de placas de ouro complicada a sua posição como um vidente local, parece ter funcionado apenas como Sally perseguição fez. Quinn relata que: &quot;EW Vanderhoof [escrito em 1905] lembrou que seu avô holandês, uma vez pago Smith setenta e cinco centavos de olhar para a sua pedra&quot; esbranquiçada, brilhante e opaco 'para localizar uma égua roubada O avô em breve &quot;recuperou a besta. , o que Joe disse estava em algum lugar na margem do lago e [foi] a ponto de ser atropelado ao Canadá. Vanderhoof queixou de que &quot;qualquer um poderia ter dito a ele que, como era, invariavelmente, a forma como um ladrão de cavalos seria necessário para dispor de um animal roubado naqueles dias '.&quot; 13 Enquanto Vanderhoof relatado um resultado positivo da consulta, é interessante que a sua declaração inclui um qualificador que tem a mesma intenção como aqueles adicionados pelos irmãos do Saunders. Até o final do século, não se quer realmente creditar um vidente vilarejo ao descrever suas atividades. No entanto, não é a eficácia que é importante, é a natureza da consulta. Os clientes da Sally Perseguição consultou-la a encontrar as coisas que foram perdidas, e Joseph Smith teve pelo menos um cliente que fez o mesmo. {{ref | gardner2}} <br /> &lt;/ blockquote&gt; <br /> <br /> Martin Harris contou que Joseph poderia encontrar objetos perdidos com a segunda pedra, branco: <br /> <br /> :: Eu estava na casa de seu pai em Manchester, duas milhas ao sul da vila de Palmyra, e estava pegando meus dentes com um alfinete, enquanto sentado nos bares. O pino preso em meus dentes e caiu de meus dedos em aparas e palha. Eu pulei de bares e olhou para ele. José e Northrop doce também fez o mesmo. Nós não poderia encontrá-lo. Tomei, então, Joseph em surpresa, e lhe disse: - Eu disse: &quot;Tome a sua pedra.&quot; Eu nunca tinha visto, e não sabia que ele tinha com ele. Ele tinha no bolso. Ele pegou-a e colocou-a em seu chapéu - o velho chapéu branco - e colocou seu rosto em seu chapéu. Eu o vi de perto para ver que ele não olhou para um lado; ele estendeu a sua mão além de mim, à direita, e se moveu um pouco vara e lá eu vi o pino, que ele pegou e me deu. Eu sei que ele não olhar para fora do chapéu até depois que ele tinha pego o pino {{ref | pin}}. <br /> <br /> ===How many seer stones were there?===<br /> <br /> Joseph first used a neighbor's seer stone (probably Sally Chase, on the balance of historical evidence, though there are other possibilities) to discover the location of a brown, baby's foot-shaped stone. The vision of this stone likely occurred in about 1819&amp;ndash;1820, and he obtained his first seer stone in about 1821&amp;ndash;1822.{{ref|mcgee1}}<br /> <br /> Joseph then used this first stone to find a second stone (a white one). The colour and sequence of obtaining these stones has often been confused,{{ref|confused1}} and readers interested in an in-depth treatment are referred to the endnotes.{{ref|mcgee2}}<br /> <br /> Joseph would later discover at least two more seers stones in Nauvoo, on the banks of the Mississippi. These stones seem to have been collected more for their appearance, and there is little evidence of Joseph using them at that late date in his prophetic career.{{ref|mcgee3}}<br /> <br /> ===How did Joseph obtain his second seer stone?===<br /> <br /> The seer stone was reportedly found on the property of William Chase in 1822 as Chase described it:<br /> <br /> :In the year 1822, I was engaged in digging a well. I employed Alvin and Joseph Smith to assist me.... After digging about twenty feet below the surface of the earth, we discovered a singularly appearing stone, which excited my curiosity. I brought it to the top of the well, and as we were examining it, Joseph put it into his hat, and then his face into the top of his hat.... The next morning he came to me, and wished to obtain the stone, alleging that he could see in it; but I told him I did not wish to part with it on account of its being a curiosity, but I would lend it.{{ref|chase1}}<br /> <br /> Martin Harris and Wilford Woodruff were to later confirm this account after Joseph's death.{{ref|chaseconfirm}}<br /> <br /> ===What did the stones look like?===<br /> One witness reported (of the first, brown stone), from 1826:<br /> <br /> :It was about the size of a small hen's egg, in the shape of a high-instepped shoe. It was composed of layers of different colors passing diagonally through it. It was very hard and smooth, perhaps by being carried in the pocket.{{ref|stonesize}}<br /> <br /> The second stone:<br /> <br /> : [the] Seer Stone was the shape of an egg though not quite so large, of a gray cast something like granite but with white stripes running around it. It was transparent but had no holes, neither on the end or in the sides.{{ref|secondstoneappear}}<br /> <br /> ===For what purpose(s) did Joseph use the stones prior to the restoration?===<br /> <br /> As noted above, Joseph used the first stone to find the second.<br /> <br /> Martin Harris recounted that Joseph could find lost objects with the second, white stone:<br /> <br /> :: I was at the house of his father in Manchester, two miles south of Palmyra village, and was picking my teeth with a pin while sitting on the bars. The pin caught in my teeth and dropped from my fingers into shavings and straw. I jumped from the bars and looked for it. Joseph and Northrop Sweet also did the same. We could not find it. I then took Joseph on surprise, and said to him--I said, &quot;Take your stone.&quot; I had never seen it, and did not know that he had it with him. He had it in his pocket. He took it and placed it in his hat--the old white hat--and placed his face in his hat. I watched him closely to see that he did not look to one side; he reached out his hand beyond me on the right, and moved a little stick and there I saw the pin, which he picked up and gave to me. I know he did not look out of the hat until after he had picked up the pin.{{ref|pin}}<br /> <br /> Joseph's mother also indicated that Joseph was sought out by some, including Josiah Stoal, to use the stone to find hidden valuables. He<br /> <br /> :came for Joseph on account of having heard that he possessed certain keys by which he could discern things invisible to the natural eye.{{ref|lucymack1}}<br /> <br /> Joseph referred to this incident in {{scripture||JS-H|1|55-56}}.<br /> <br /> Stoal eventually joined the Church; some of his family, however, charged Joseph in court for events related to this treasure seeking. Stoal testified in Joseph's defense. <br /> <br /> Joseph Knight also said that, at the command of the angel Moroni, Joseph looked into his seer stone to learn who he should marry. He &quot;looked in his glass and found it was Emma Hale.&quot;{{ref|marryemma1}}<br /> <br /> {{Detail|Joseph Smith/Legal trials/1826 glasslooking trial|l1=Joseph's 1826 glasslooking trial}}<br /> <br /> ===How were the stone(s) involved in the translation of the Book of Mormon?===<br /> <br /> There is considerable evidence that the location of the plates and Nephite interpreters (Urim and Thummim) were revealed to Joseph via his second, white seer stone. In 1859, Martin Harris recalled that &quot;Joseph had a stone which was dug from the well of Mason Chase...It was by means of this stone he first discovered the plates.&quot;{{ref|stoneplates1}}<br /> <br /> Some critics have sought to create a contradiction here, since Joseph's history reported that Moroni revealed the plates to him ({{s||JS-H|1|34-35,42}}). This is an example of a false dichotomy: Moroni could easily have told Joseph about the plates and interpreters. The vision to Joseph may well have then come through the seer stone, as some of the sections of the Doctrine and Covenants (e.g., Section X) would later be revealed. One account matches this theory well:<br /> <br /> :I had a conversation with [Joseph], and asked him where he found them [the plates] and how he come to know where they were. he said he had a revelation from God that told him they were hid in a certain hill and he looked in his [seer] stone and saw them in the place of deposit.&quot;{{ref|henryharris1}}<br /> <br /> Joseph Knight recalled that Joseph was more excited about the Nephite interpreters than the gold plates:<br /> <br /> :After breakfast Joseph called me into the other room, set his foot on the bed, and leaned his head on his hand and said, &quot;Well I am disappointed.&quot;<br /> :&quot;Well, I said, &quot;I am sorry.&quot;<br /> :&quot;Well, he said, &quot;I am greatly disappointed. It is ten times better than I expected.&quot;<br /> :Then he went on to tell the length and width and thickness of the plates and, said he, they appear to be gold. But, he seemed to think more of the glasses or the Urim and thummim than he did of the plate for, said he, &quot;I can see anything. They are marvelous.&quot;{{ref|knight1}}<br /> <br /> Martin Harris later described the Nephite interpreters as<br /> <br /> :about two inches in diameter, perfectly round, and about five-eighths of an inch thick at the centre.... They were joined by a round bar of diver, about three-eights of an inch in diameter, and about four inches long, which with the two stones, would make eight inches.{{ref|harris1}}<br /> <br /> Despite having the Nephite interpreters, Joseph Smith often used the seer stone to translate. This led to an episode in which Martin tested the veracity of Joseph's claim to use the second, white stone to translate:{{ref|harriswhite1}}<br /> <br /> :Once Martin found a rock closely resembling the seerstone Joseph sometimes used in place of the interpreters and substituted it without the Prophet’s knowledge. When the translation resumed, Joseph paused for a long time and then exclaimed, “Martin, what is the matter, all is as dark as Egypt.” Martin then confessed that he wished to “stop the mouths of fools” who told him that the Prophet memorized sentences and merely repeated them.{{ref|mouthoffools}}<br /> <br /> Joseph also seems to have sometimes removed the Nephite stones from the &quot;silver bows&quot; which held them like spectacles, and used them as individual seer stones. Joseph used his white seer stone sometimes &quot;for convenience&quot; during the translation of the 116 pages with Martin Harris; later witnesses reported him using his brown seer stone.{{ref|variousstones1}}<br /> <br /> {{Detail|/Used for Book of Mormon translation|l1=Why would Joseph use the same stone for the Book of Mormon translation that he previously used for &quot;money digging?&quot;}}<br /> <br /> ===Did Joseph lose the seer stone(s) and/or the Urim and Thummim?===<br /> <br /> Following the loss of the 116 pages, the Lord told Joseph:<br /> <br /> :1 NOW, behold, I say unto you, that because you delivered up those writings which you had power given unto you to translate by the means of the Urim and Thummim, into the hands of a wicked man, you have lost them.<br /> :2 And you also lost your gift at the same time, and your mind became darkened.<br /> :3 Nevertheless, it is now restored unto you again; therefore see that you are faithful and continue on unto the finishing of the remainder of the work of translation as you have begun.<br /> :4 Do not run faster or labor more than you have strength and means provided to enable you to translate; but be diligent unto the end. ({{s||DC|10|1-4}})<br /> <br /> Thus, &quot;it&quot; (Joseph's gift) was restored to him, but there is no indication that the Nephite interpreters (Urim and Thummim) were also returned, Joseph having also lost &quot;them.&quot; That is, after repenting, Joseph would recover his seer stones, but apparently not the Urim and Thummim. Some Church sources have seen this as the point at which Joseph received the seer stone for the first time, but this is likely incorrect:<br /> <br /> :As a chastisement for this carelessness [loss of the 116 pages], the Urim and Thummim was taken from Smith. But by humbling himself, he again found favor with the Lord and was presented a strange oval-shaped, chocolate colored stone, about the size of an egg, but more flat which it was promised should answer the same purpose. With this stone all the present book was translated.{{ref|hr1}}<br /> <br /> This source is clearly somewhat confused, since it sees Joseph as getting his dark stone ''after'' the 116 pages, when it likely dates to 1822 at the latest (see above).<br /> <br /> David Whitmer, who only came in contact with the translation after the loss of the 116 pages, indicated through a friend that<br /> <br /> :With the sanction of David Whitmer, and by his authority, I now state that he does not say that Joseph Smith ever translated in his presence by aid of Urim and Thummim; but by means of one dark colored, opaque stone, called a 'Seer Stone,' which was placed in the crown of a hat, into which Joseph put his face, so as to exclude the external light. Then, a spiritual light would shine forth, and parchment would appear before Joseph, upon which was a line of characters from the plates, and under it, the translation in English; at least, so Joseph said.{{ref|sh1}}<br /> <br /> Joseph also used the seer stone to keep himself and the plates safe, as his mother recorded:<br /> <br /> :That of which I spoke, which Joseph termed a key, was indeed, nothing more nor less than the Urim and Thummim, and it was by this that the angel showed him many things which he saw in vision; by which also he could ascertain, at any time, the approach of danger, either to himself or the Record, and on account of which he always kept the Urim and Thummim about his person.{{ref|lucymack2}}<br /> <br /> We see here the tendency to use the term &quot;Urim and Thummim&quot; to refer to Joseph's seer stone (or to the Nephite interpreters, which would have been too large for Joseph to carry on his person undetected). This lack of precision in terminology has, on occasion, confused some members who have not understood that either or both may be referred to by early LDS authors as &quot;Urim and Thummim.&quot; To Joseph and his contemporaries, they were all the same type of thing, and merely differed in the strength of their power and ability. Clearly, devices from the Lord when directed by an angelic messenger (such as the Nephite interpreters) would outrank a seer stone found on one's own.<br /> <br /> ===What is the relation between Urim and Thummim and seer stones?===<br /> <br /> As seen above, members of the Church tended to conflate the seer stone with the Nephite interpreters (never called &quot;Urim and Thummim&quot; by the Book of Mormon text; the label is a modern application).<br /> <br /> The Book of Mormon makes reference to a stone that likely has reference to Joseph Smith's seer stone (as distinct from the Nephite interpreters):<br /> <br /> : And the Lord said: I will prepare unto my servant Gazelem, a stone, which shall shine forth in darkness unto light, that I may discover unto my people who serve me, that I may discover unto them the works of their brethren, yea, their secret works, their works of darkness, and their wickedness and abominations.{{s||Alma|37|23}}<br /> <br /> Joseph Smith's &quot;code name,&quot; used for the publication of some sections of the Doctrine and Covenants to hide the recipients from their enemies, was &quot;Gazalem.&quot; And, at his funeral, W.W. Phelps also applied this name to Joseph.{{ref|gazalem1}}<br /> <br /> Alma's account then goes on to speak of the Nephite interpreters:<br /> <br /> :24 And now, my son, these interpreters were prepared that the word of God might be fulfilled, which he spake, saying:<br /> :25 I will bring forth out of darkness unto light all their secret works and their abominations; and except they repent I will destroy them from off the face of the earth; and I will bring to light all their secrets and abominations, unto every nation that shall hereafter possess the land.{{s||Alma|37|24-25}}<br /> <br /> Thus, &quot;stone&quot; (singular) may well be distinct from the &quot;interpreters&quot; (plural) possessed by the Nephites. The Book of Mosiah makes clear that the interpreters consisted of &quot;two stones&quot;:<br /> <br /> : 13 Now Ammon said unto him: I can assuredly tell thee, O king, of a man that can translate the records; for he has wherewith that he can look, and translate all records that are of ancient date; and it is a gift from God. And the things are called interpreters, and no man can look in them except he be commanded, lest he should look for that he ought not and he should perish. And whosoever is commanded to look in them, the same is called seer.<br /> :14 And behold, the king of the people who are in the land of Zarahemla is the man that is commanded to do these things, and who has this high gift from God.{{s||Mosiah|8|13-14}}<br /> :…<br /> :13 And now he translated them by the means of those two stones which were fastened into the two rims of a bow.<br /> :14 Now these things were prepared from the beginning, and were handed down from generation to generation, for the purpose of interpreting languages;<br /> :15 And they have been kept and preserved by the hand of the Lord, that he should discover to every creature who should possess the land the iniquities and abominations of his people;<br /> :16 And whosoever has these things is called seer, after the manner of old times. .{{s||Mosiah|28|13-16}}<br /> <br /> The first use in print of &quot;Urim and Thummim&quot; to refer to the interpreters was in January 1833:<br /> <br /> :[The Book of Mormon] was translated by the gift and power of God, by an unlearned man, through the aid of a pair of Interpreters, or spectacles--(known, perhaps in ancient days as Teraphim, or Urim and Thummim).{{ref|wwphelps1}}<br /> <br /> Members of the Church seem to have used the term interchangeably on many occasions.{{ref|interchange1}}<br /> <br /> ===Why did Joseph tend to use the seer stone more than the Nephite interpreters?===<br /> <br /> The size of the interpreters may have been a significant barrier to their use. William Smith, Joseph's brother, described the Nephite instruments as<br /> <br /> :too large for Joseph's eyes; they must have been used by larger men.{{ref|williamsmith1}}<br /> <br /> Charles Anthon agreed when he later recalled Martin Harris' description and wrote:<br /> <br /> :These spectacles were so large that if a person attempted to look through them, his two eyes would have to be turned towards one of the glasses merely, the spectacles in question being altogether too large for the breadth of the human face.{{ref|anthon1}}<br /> <br /> ===Why did use of the seer stones subside?===<br /> <br /> These Urim and Thummim were the means of receiving most of the formal revelations until June 1829. That was the time of completing the Book of Mormon, which was translated through the Nephite interpreters and also Joseph's other seer stone(s). After this, seer stones were generally not used while receiving revelation or translation. (The JST and the Book of Abraham translations both began with seer stone usage, but Joseph soon quit using them.{{ref|JSTandBoA}}) Following his baptism, receipt of the Holy Ghost, and ordination to the Melchizedek priesthood, Joseph seems have felt far less need to resort to the stones.{{ref|priesthood1}} He had learned, through divine tutoring, how to receive unmediated revelation&amp;mdash;the Lord had taken him &quot;line upon line&quot; from where he was (surrounded with beliefs about seeing and divining) and brought him to further light, knowledge, and power.<br /> <br /> This perspective was reinforced by Orson Pratt, who watched the New Testament revision (JST) and wondered why the use of seer stones/interpreters (as with the Book of Mormon) was not continued:<br /> <br /> :While this thought passed through the speaker's mind, Joseph, as if he read his thoughts, looked up and explained that the Lord gave him the Urim and Thummim when he was inexperienced in the Spirit of inspiration. But now he had advanced so far that he understood the operations of that Spirit and did not need the assistance of that instrument.{{ref|prattuandt}}<br /> <br /> ===Are there any Biblical parallels to Joseph's seer stone understanding?===<br /> <br /> The idea of sacred stones acting as revelators to believers is present in the Bible, and Joseph Smith embraced a decidedly &quot;non-magical&quot; and &quot;pro-religious&quot; view of them:<br /> <br /> :In Revelation, John incorporates past religious symbols into his message. Thus the most internally consistent interpretation of the &quot;white stone&quot; combines with the book's assurance that the faithful will become &quot;kings and priests&quot; to the Most High (Rev. 1:6). These eternal priests will be in tune with God's will, like the High Priest with the breastplate of shining stones and the Urim. In Hebrew that term means &quot;light,&quot; corresponding to the &quot;white&quot; stone of John's Revelation. This correlation should be obvious, but Joseph Smith is virtually alone in confidence that John sees the redeemed as full High Priests: &quot;Then the white stone mentioned in Rev. 2:17 is the Urim and Thummim, whereby all things pertaining to a higher order of kingdoms, even all kingdoms, will be made know.&quot; As for genuine religion, Joseph Smith perceived the stone of John's vision not as a stone of chance but as a conduit of enlightenment and a reward of worthiness of character.{{ref|revelationjohn1}}<br /> <br /> ===What happened to the seer stones?===<br /> <br /> As noted above, the Nephite interpreters were apparently reclaimed by Moroni following the loss of the 116 pages, and were only seen again by the Three Witnesses ([http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/thrwtnss Testimony of Three]).<br /> <br /> Van Wagoner and Walker write:<br /> : David Whitmer indicated that the seer stone was later given to Oliver Cowdery: &quot;After the translation of the Book of Mormon was finished early in the spring of 1830 before April 6th, Joseph gave the Stone to Oliver Cowdery and told me as well as the rest that he was through with it, and he did not use the Stone anymore.” Whitmer, who was Cowdery's brother-in-law, stated that on Oliver's death in 1848, another brother-in-law, &quot;Phineas Young, a brother of Brigham Young, and an old-time and once intimate friend of the Cowdery family came out from Salt Lake City, and during his visit he contrived to get the stone from its hiding place, through a little deceptive sophistry, extended upon the grief-stricken widow. When he returned to Utah he carried it in triumph to the apostles of Brigham Young's 'lion house.'&quot;...<br /> <br /> [Van Wagoner and Walker here confuse the two seer stones, so this section is not included here, given that better information has since come to light.]<br /> <br /> :...Joseph Fielding Smith, as an apostle, made clear that &quot;the Seer Stone which was in the possession of the Prophet Joseph Smith in early days . . . is now in the possession of the Church.&quot; Elder Joseph Anderson, Assistant to the Council of the Twelve and long-time secretary to the First Presidency, clarified in 1971 that the &quot;Seer Stone that Joseph Smith used in the early days of the Church is in possession of the Church and is kept in a safe in Joseph Fielding Smith's office.... [The stone is] slightly smaller than a chicken egg, oval, chocolate in color.&quot;{{ref|fatestone}} (This would be Joseph's first, &quot;shoe-shaped stone,&quot; which was given to Oliver Cowdery, and then to his brother-in-law Phineaus Young, brother of Brigham Young.{{ref|fatestone1}})<br /> <br /> Joseph's second (white) stone is also in the possession of the LDS First Presidency.{{ref|2ndstonefate}}<br /> <br /> ===Has the Church tried to hide Joseph's use of a seer stone?===<br /> <br /> The Church has been very frank about the seer stone's use, though the ''product'' of the translation of the Book of Mormon is usually given much more attention that the ''process''.<br /> <br /> Text translated with the Nephite interpreters was lost with the 116 pages given to Martin Harris&amp;mdash;see {{s||DC|3||}}. The Church's ''Historical Record'' records Joseph's use of the seer stone to translate all of our current Book of Mormon text:<br /> <br /> :As a chastisement for this carelessness [loss of the 116 pages], the Urim and Thummim was taken from Smith. But by humbling himself, he again found favor with the Lord and was presented a strange oval-shaped, chocolate colored stone, about the size of an egg, but more flat which it was promised should answer the same purpose. With this stone all the present book was translated. [Note that the chronology of Joseph's acquisition of the stone is here somewhat confused. The use of the stone, however, is clearly indicated.]{{ref|hr1}}<br /> <br /> References to the stone are not confined to the distant past. Elder Russell M. Nelson of the Twelve Apostles described the process clearly in an ''Ensign'' article:<br /> <br /> :Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man.{{ref|nelson1}}<br /> <br /> It would be strange to try to hide something by having an apostle talk about it, and then send the account to every LDS home in the official magazine!<br /> <br /> ====Other mentions in Church materials====<br /> Similar material is also found in other Church publications, some of which are included below:<br /> <br /> * {{Ensign1|author=Richard Lloyd Anderson|article=‘By the Gift and Power of God’|date=Sepember 1977|start=79}}{{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=5a921f26d596b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1}}<br /> * Hyrum Andrus, ''Joseph Smith, the Man, the Seer'' (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret Book Company, 1960), 102. {{GL1|url=http://gospelink.com/library/doc?doc_id=271098}}<br /> * {{FR-6-1-14}}&lt;!--Hamblin--&gt;<br /> * {{BYUS|author=Marvin S. Hill|article=Money-Digging Folklore and the Beginnings of Mormonism: An Interpretative Suggestion|vol=24|num=4|date=Fall 1984|start=?|end=??}}{{GL|url=http://gospelink.com/library/doc?doc_id=282646}}<br /> * {{IE1|author=Francis W. Kirkham|article=The Manner of Translating The BOOK of MORMON|date=1939}} {{GL1|url=http://gospelink.com/library/doc?doc_id=242545}}<br /> * Joseph Fielding McConkie, Craig J. Ostler, ''Revelations of the Restoration: A Commentary on the Doctrine and Covenants and Other Modern Revelations'' (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret Book Co., 2000), D&amp;C 9. {{GL1|url=http://gospelink.com/library/doc?doc_id=352684}}<br /> * {{JBMS-2-2-14}}&lt;!--Ricks--&gt;<br /> * {{DFS1|article=A Brief Debate on the Book of Mormon|vol=1|start=350}}{{GL1|url=http://gospelink.com/library/doc?doc_id=205446}}<br /> * {{BYUS1|author=Royal Skousen|article=Towards a Critical Edition of the Book of Mormon|start=52|date=Winter 1990|vol=30|num=1}}{{GL1|url=http://gospelink.com/library/doc?doc_id=282960}}<br /> <br /> =={{Conclusion label}}==<br /> <br /> The charge that the Church is &quot;hiding&quot; or &quot;suppressing&quot; this material cannot be sustained.<br /> <br /> =={{Endnotes label}}==<br /> &lt;!--Village seer--&gt;<br /> #{{note|gardner1}}Brant A. Gardner, [http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences/2009_Joseph_the_Seer.html Joseph the Seer—or Why Did He Translate With a Rock in His Hat?], 2009 FAIR Conference presentation. Gardner references [9] D. Michael Quinn, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1987), 38.'' and [10] Richard L. Bushman, ''Joseph Smith and the Beginnings of Mormonism'' (Urbana and Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1984), 70.<br /> #{{note|mcgee1}} {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=200|end=215}}<br /> #{{note|chase1}} Eber Dudley Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (Painesville, Ohio: Telegraph Press, 1834), 241-242; cited in {{Dialogue|author=Richard Van Wagoner and Steven Walker|article=Joseph Smith: 'The Gift of Seeing|vol=15|num=2|date=Summer 1982|start=48|end=68}} <br /> #{{note|gardner2}}Gardner, ''Joseph the Seer...''<br /> #{{note|pin}} Joel Tiffany, ''Tiffany's Monthly'' (June 1859): 164;cited in Van Wagoner and Walker, 55.<br /> &lt;!--How many seer stones?--&gt;<br /> #{{note|mcgee1}} {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=200|end=215}}<br /> #{{note|confused1}} See, for example, {{CHC1|vol=1|start=129}}; Roberts was followed by Richard S. Van Wagoner, Dan Vogel, Ogden Kraut, Jerald and Sandra Tanner, and D. Michael Quinn. See discussion in Ashurst-McGee, 247n317. <br /> #{{note|mcgee2}} {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=200|end=283}}<br /> #{{note|mcgee3}} {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=200|end=201}}<br /> &lt;!-- How did Joseph obtain?--&gt;<br /> #{{note|chase1}} Eber Dudley Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (Painesville, Ohio: Telegraph Press, 1834), 241-242; cited in {{Dialogue|author=Richard Van Wagoner and Steven Walker|article=Joseph Smith: 'The Gift of Seeing|vol=15|num=2|date=Summer 1982|start=48|end=68}} <br /> #{{note|chaseconfirm}} See Van Wagoner and Walker, 54.<br /> &lt;!-- What did the stone look like? --&gt;<br /> #{{note|stonesize}} W. D. Purple, ''The Chenango Union'' (3 May 1877); cited in {{NewWitnessForChrist1|vol=2|start=365}} (See Van Wagoner and Walker, 54.)<br /> #{{note|secondstoneappear}} Richard Marcellas Robinson, &quot;The History of a Nephite Coin,&quot; manuscript, 20 December 1834, LDS Church archives; cited in {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis1|start=264}}<br /> &lt;!-- What did Joseph use it for pre-restoration?--&gt;<br /> #{{note|pin}} Joel Tiffany, ''Tiffany's Monthly'' (June 1859): 164;cited in Van Wagoner and Walker, 55.<br /> #{{note|lucymack1}} {{biosketch|start=91|end=92}}<br /> #{{note|marryemma1}} {{BYUS1|author=Dean C. Jessee|article=Joseph Knight's Recollection of Early Mormon History|vol=17|date=August 1976|num=1|page=31}}; cited in {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis1|start=281}}<br /> &lt;!-- Role in BoM translation?--&gt;<br /> #{{note|stoneplates1}} Mormonism&amp;mdash;II,&quot; ''Tiffany's Monthly'' (June 1859): 163, see also 169; cited in Ashurst-McGee (2000), 286.<br /> #{{note|henryharris1}} Henry Harris, statement in E.D. Howe ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (1833), 252; cited in Ashurst-McGee (2000), 290.<br /> #{{note|knight1}} Joseph Knight, cited in Leonard J. Arrington and Davis Bitton, ''Saints Without Halos: The Human Side of Mormon History'' (Salt Lake City, Signature Books, 1981), 6. Spelling and punctuation have been modernized. The original text reads: &quot;After Brackfist Joseph Cald me in to the other Room and he sit his foot on the Bed and leaned his head on his hand and says, well I am Dissopented. Well, say I, I am sorrey. Well, says he, I am grateley Dissopnted. It is ten times Better then I expected. Then he went on to tell the length and width and thickness of the plates and, said he, they appear to be gold. But he seamed to think more of the glasses or the urim and thummim than he Did of the plates for says he, I can see anything. They are Marvelous.&quot;<br /> #{{note|harris1}} Joel Tiffany, &quot;Mormonism&amp;mdash;No. II,&quot; ''Tiffany's Monthly'' (June 1859): 165&amp;ndash;166; cited in VanWagoner and Walker, footnote 27.<br /> #{{note|harriswhite1}} Tiffany, 163.<br /> #{{note|mouthoffools}} Told in ''Millennial Star'' 44:87; quotation from {{Ensign1|author=Kenneth W. Godfrey|article=A New Prophet and a New Scripture: The Coming Forth of the Book of Mormon|date=January 1988|start=6}}{{link|url=http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1988.htm/ensign%20january%201988.htm/a%20new%20prophet%20and%20a%20new%20scripture%20the%20coming%20forth%20of%20the%20book%20of%20mormon.htm}}<br /> #{{note|variousstones1}} See {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=320|end=326}}<br /> &lt;!--Lose the seer stones and Urim?--&gt;<br /> #{{note|hr1}} ''The Historical Record. Devoted Exclusively to Historical, Biographical, Chronological and Statistical Matters'', (LDS Church Archives), 632,; cited in Van Wagoner and Walker, 54. Note that Van Wagoner and Walker contain inaccurate information about the stones, their provenance, and order of discovery.<br /> #{{note|recoverurim}} See Joseph Smith's 1838/9 history in {{EarlyMormonDocs1|vol=1|num=73}} and {{LucyMackSmith-Anderson1| start=428}}<br /> #{{note|sh1}} ''Saints' Herald'' 26 (15 November 1879): 341.<br /> &lt;!--Urim and Thummim vs seer stone--&gt;<br /> #{{note|gazalem1}} The material on &quot;gazelem&quot; is derived from Van Wagoner and Walker, 56.<br /> #{{note|wwphelps1}} {{EMS1|vol=1|num=8|date=January 1833|author=William W. Phelps (uncredited)|article=The Book of Mormon|start=58}}; cited in Van Wagoner and Walker, 53. {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/u?/NCMP1820-1846,5765}}<br /> #{{note|interchange1}} See discussion in Van Wagoner and Walker, 59&amp;ndash;63.<br /> &lt;!-- Why seer stone instead of U&amp;T used?--&gt;<br /> # {{note|williamsmith1}} William Smith interview by J. W. Peterson and W. S. Pender, 4 July 1891, reported in ''The Rod of Iron'' 3 (February 1924): 6-7; ''Saints' Herald'' 79 (9 March 1932): 238; cited in VanWagoner and Walker, footnote 27.<br /> #{{note|anthon1}} Charles Anthon letter to E. D. Howe, 17 Feb. 1834, published in E.D. Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'', 17; cited in VanWagoner and Walker, footnote 27.<br /> &lt;!--Eclipse of seer stones--&gt;<br /> #{{note|JSTandBoA}} {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=334|end=337}}<br /> #{{note|priesthood1}} {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=332|end=333}}<br /> #{{note|prattuandt}} {{MatureJS}} ; citing Orson Pratt, &quot;Discourse at Brigham City,&quot; 27 June 1874, Ogden (Utah) Junction, cited in {{MS|author=Orson Pratt|article=Two Days´ Meeting at Brigham City|vol=36|date=11 August 1874|start=498|end=499}}<br /> &lt;!--Biblical parallels--&gt;<br /> #{{note|revelationjohn1}} {{MatureJS}}<br /> &lt;!-- What happened to the seer stone?--&gt;<br /> #{{note|fatestone}} Van Wagoner and Walker, 58&amp;ndash;59 (citations removed).<br /> #{{note|fatestone}} {{Ashurst-McGee-Thesis|start=230|231}}<br /> #{{note|2ndstonefate}} Quinn, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View'' 242&amp;ndash;247.<br /> #{{note|hr1}} ''The Historical Record. Devoted Exclusively to Historical, Biographical, Chronological and Statistical Matters'' (LDS Church Archives), 632.<br /> #{{note|nelson1}} David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'' (Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887), 12; cited in {{Ensign1|author=Russell M. 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GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon&diff=79175 2014-07-07T03:58:41Z

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GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon&diff=79174 2014-07-07T03:33:50Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Artigos FAIR direitos autorais}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 1}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 2}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 3}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 4}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 5}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 6}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 7}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 8}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 9}} {{Artigos Cabeçalho 10}}<br /> {{Título do Recurso|Artigos relacionados com o Livro de Mórmon}}<br /> {{summary}}<br /> {{BoMPortal}}<br /> == ==<br /> {{Tópicos rótulo}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Básico}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Tradução}}<br /> {{:Joseph Smith/Pedras de Vidência}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Testemunhas}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Publicação}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Teorias de Autoria}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/B.H. Roberts}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Acusações de Plágio}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Linguagem usada}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Alterações textuais}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Integralidade}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Arqueologia}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Anacronismos}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Questões doutrinárias}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Geografia}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Historicidade}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Lamanitas}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Evidências de DNA}}<br /> {{:Livro de Mórmon/Veracidade}}<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Artigos de Rodapé 1}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 2}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 3}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 4}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 5}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 6}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 7}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 8}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 9}} {{Artigos de Rodapé 10}}<br /> <br /> [[en:Book of Mormon]]<br /> [[de:Das Buch Mormon]]<br /> [[es:El Libro de Mormón]]<br /> [[fr:Book of Mormon]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=Pergunta:_Consideram_os_M%C3%B3rmons_a_B%C3%ADblia_como_indigna_de_confian%C3%A7a%3F&diff=79052 2014-05-31T19:15:43Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: </p> <hr /> <div>{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título de recursos|Do Latter-day Saints consider the Bible to be trustworthy?}}<br /> {{being translated}}<br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta pergunta}}<br /> <br /> It is claimed that Latter-day Saint leaders diminish the Bible as untrustworthy.<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta conclusão}} <br /> <br /> Do the Latter-day Saints detract from the Bible? Do they criticize it? No more so than the majority of Biblical scholars. <br /> <br /> Early LDS leaders' views on the problems with biblical inerrancy and biblical translation would seem mainstream to most today. Only those who completely reject modern biblical textual criticism would find LDS leaders' views radical or evil. In fact, LDS beliefs on the matter accord well with many other Christian denominations. Those who vilify LDS belief on this point tend to be at the extreme end of the debate about scriptural inerrancy, and would also reject a modern creedal, orthodox scholar's views.<br /> <br /> The Latter-day Saints believe that the Bible is true. It is inspired and inspiring, having been inspired by God and written by prophets, apostles, and disciples of Jesus Christ.<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta resposta}}<br /> <br /> In 1979, the Church produced its own King James Bible, complete with a set of footnotes and cross references, as well as translational notes and study helps. Prior to this publication, the Church purchased most of its King James Bibles from Cambridge University Press. Does this sound like an organization that is using the Bible merely as a public relations gimmick? If so, millions of members were never told. The Church and its members have a deep love and appreciation for the Word of God as found in the Bible. <br /> <br /> The bold assertion that the LDS do not value the Bible is amusing. There is no presentation of statistics, only anecdotal claims that first, LDS members do not read the Bible and are not familiar with it, and second, that they constantly hear from their leaders that the Bible is less than trustworthy.<br /> <br /> In a survey published in July 2001, Barna Research Group, Ltd. (BRG) made the following observations:<br /> <br /> :The study also revealed that barely half of all Protestant adults (54%) read the Bible during a typical week. Barna pointed out that Mormons are more likely to read the Bible during a week than are Protestants-even though most Mormons do not believe that the Bible is the authoritative Word of God.{{ref|Barna}}<br /> <br /> BRG is not affiliated with the LDS Church, nor was the LDS Church involved in the survey. Members of the LDS Church likewise would not categorize their faith in this fashion&amp;mdash;they ''do'', in fact, regard the Bible as authoritative and the Word of God. Yet the survey indicated that they certainly do read the Bible consistently. Also, over the course of two years out of every four years, every member of the Church is asked to read and study the entire text of the Bible as part of the Church's Sunday School curriculum. Asked by whom? By the leaders of the LDS Church.<br /> <br /> ===Early LDS study of biblical languages===<br /> <br /> One of the often-neglected events in LDS history happened in 1836. Joseph Smith arranged for a Hebrew scholar to come and teach Hebrew to the members of the LDS Church in Kirtland Ohio. The members of the Church had already been studying the Hebrew language, having purchased some grammars, a Hebrew Bible, and a lexicon, and had previously attempted to hire a teacher. The Hebrew scholar who came was Joshua Seixas. He spent several weeks instructing many of the members of the Church in Hebrew.{{ref|Seixas}} Why the interest in the Hebrew we might ask? Clearly it was to be able to (in the words of Pope Pius XII) 'explain the original text which, having been written by the inspired author himself, has more authority and greater weight than any even the very best translation, whether ancient or modern.'<br /> <br /> What this shows is that not only were the early LDS aware of the challenges associated with the Bible, but that they were just as interested in going back to the original language and to the original texts (if possible) as was the rest of Christendom who were aware of these discrepancies. Despite the critics' unfounded assertions to the contrary, there has never been a leader of the LDS Church who has ever suggested that the Bible was not suitable for study and for learning the Gospel due to any shortcomings it may have.<br /> <br /> ===The Book of Mormon on the Bible===<br /> <br /> Critics often discuss two of Nephi's statements regarding the Bible as found in the Book of Mormon. Nephi's perspective is that of modern Latter-day Saints: The Bible contains truth from God. However, it is still the work of men, and is only as reliable as the men who wrote, translated and copied it.<br /> <br /> It is interesting that the Book of Mormon itself has begun to be seen as a witness to the textual criticism of the Bible. Source critical theory of the Old Testament splits the story of David and Goliath into two separate accounts that were later merged into the common story that we have today.{{ref|Tov-Tigay}} Scholars believe these two traditions represent an earlier source and a later source. One of the primary evidences for this argument is the fact that some of the added material is missing from the Septuagint (LXX). In a paper presented at the 2001 FAIR Conference, Benjamin McGuire presented evidence that Nephi, in borrowing from the story of David and Goliath, relied on a text that did not have the added or late material.{{ref|McGuire}} This would be in harmony with current scholarship of the Old Testament, which indicates that this material was added at the time of the captivity in Babylon, and certainly after Nephi had left Jerusalem with his Brass Plates.<br /> <br /> {{SeeAlso|Bible/Basics|l1=LDS statements about the Bible}}<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta notas}}<br /> <br /> # {{note|Barna}} The full survey, entitled &quot;Protestants, Catholics and Mormons Reflect Diverse Levels of Religious Activity,&quot; can be found at the Barna Web site at www.barna.org.<br /> # {{note|Seixas}} Perhaps as many as 120 members of the LDS Church studied under Seixas while he was in Kirtland.<br /> # {{note|Tov-Tigay}} See, for example, Emmanuel Tov, &quot;The Composition of 1 Samuel 16-18 in the Light of the Septuagint Version,&quot; in Jeffrey H. Tigay, ''Empirical Models for Biblical Criticism'' (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1985), 97-130.<br /> # {{note|McGuire}} Benjamin McGuire, &quot;Nephi and Goliath: A Reappraisal of the Use of the Old Testament in First Nephi&quot;{{fairlink|url=http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences/2001_Nephi_and_Goliath.html}} (text), or [[Topical_Guide/Multimedia_presentations/Videos/YouTube/FAIR_Conference/2001#Benjamin_McGuire_-_.22Nephi_and_Goliath:_A_Reappraisal_of_the_Use_of_the_Old_Testament_in_First_Nephi.22|video]].<br /> {{Articles Footer 1}} {{Articles Footer 2}} {{Articles Footer 3}} {{Articles Footer 4}} {{Articles Footer 5}} {{Articles Footer 6}} {{Articles Footer 7}} {{Articles Footer 8}} {{Articles Footer 9}} {{Articles Footer 10}}<br /> [[es:El Mormonismo y la Santa Biblia/Confiable]]<br /> [[en:Mormonism and the Bible/Trustworthy]]<br /> [[fr:Bible/Trustworthy]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=Pergunta:_Consideram_os_M%C3%B3rmons_a_B%C3%ADblia_como_indigna_de_confian%C3%A7a%3F&diff=79050 2014-05-31T19:13:39Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: </p> <hr /> <div>{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título de recursos|Do Latter-day Saints consider the Bible to be trustworthy?}}<br /> {{needs translation}}<br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta pergunta}}<br /> <br /> It is claimed that Latter-day Saint leaders diminish the Bible as untrustworthy.<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta conclusão}} <br /> <br /> Do the Latter-day Saints detract from the Bible? Do they criticize it? No more so than the majority of Biblical scholars. <br /> <br /> Early LDS leaders' views on the problems with biblical inerrancy and biblical translation would seem mainstream to most today. Only those who completely reject modern biblical textual criticism would find LDS leaders' views radical or evil. In fact, LDS beliefs on the matter accord well with many other Christian denominations. Those who vilify LDS belief on this point tend to be at the extreme end of the debate about scriptural inerrancy, and would also reject a modern creedal, orthodox scholar's views.<br /> <br /> The Latter-day Saints believe that the Bible is true. It is inspired and inspiring, having been inspired by God and written by prophets, apostles, and disciples of Jesus Christ.<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta resposta}}<br /> <br /> In 1979, the Church produced its own King James Bible, complete with a set of footnotes and cross references, as well as translational notes and study helps. Prior to this publication, the Church purchased most of its King James Bibles from Cambridge University Press. Does this sound like an organization that is using the Bible merely as a public relations gimmick? If so, millions of members were never told. The Church and its members have a deep love and appreciation for the Word of God as found in the Bible. <br /> <br /> The bold assertion that the LDS do not value the Bible is amusing. There is no presentation of statistics, only anecdotal claims that first, LDS members do not read the Bible and are not familiar with it, and second, that they constantly hear from their leaders that the Bible is less than trustworthy.<br /> <br /> In a survey published in July 2001, Barna Research Group, Ltd. (BRG) made the following observations:<br /> <br /> :The study also revealed that barely half of all Protestant adults (54%) read the Bible during a typical week. Barna pointed out that Mormons are more likely to read the Bible during a week than are Protestants-even though most Mormons do not believe that the Bible is the authoritative Word of God.{{ref|Barna}}<br /> <br /> BRG is not affiliated with the LDS Church, nor was the LDS Church involved in the survey. Members of the LDS Church likewise would not categorize their faith in this fashion&amp;mdash;they ''do'', in fact, regard the Bible as authoritative and the Word of God. Yet the survey indicated that they certainly do read the Bible consistently. Also, over the course of two years out of every four years, every member of the Church is asked to read and study the entire text of the Bible as part of the Church's Sunday School curriculum. Asked by whom? By the leaders of the LDS Church.<br /> <br /> ===Early LDS study of biblical languages===<br /> <br /> One of the often-neglected events in LDS history happened in 1836. Joseph Smith arranged for a Hebrew scholar to come and teach Hebrew to the members of the LDS Church in Kirtland Ohio. The members of the Church had already been studying the Hebrew language, having purchased some grammars, a Hebrew Bible, and a lexicon, and had previously attempted to hire a teacher. The Hebrew scholar who came was Joshua Seixas. He spent several weeks instructing many of the members of the Church in Hebrew.{{ref|Seixas}} Why the interest in the Hebrew we might ask? Clearly it was to be able to (in the words of Pope Pius XII) 'explain the original text which, having been written by the inspired author himself, has more authority and greater weight than any even the very best translation, whether ancient or modern.'<br /> <br /> What this shows is that not only were the early LDS aware of the challenges associated with the Bible, but that they were just as interested in going back to the original language and to the original texts (if possible) as was the rest of Christendom who were aware of these discrepancies. Despite the critics' unfounded assertions to the contrary, there has never been a leader of the LDS Church who has ever suggested that the Bible was not suitable for study and for learning the Gospel due to any shortcomings it may have.<br /> <br /> ===The Book of Mormon on the Bible===<br /> <br /> Critics often discuss two of Nephi's statements regarding the Bible as found in the Book of Mormon. Nephi's perspective is that of modern Latter-day Saints: The Bible contains truth from God. However, it is still the work of men, and is only as reliable as the men who wrote, translated and copied it.<br /> <br /> It is interesting that the Book of Mormon itself has begun to be seen as a witness to the textual criticism of the Bible. Source critical theory of the Old Testament splits the story of David and Goliath into two separate accounts that were later merged into the common story that we have today.{{ref|Tov-Tigay}} Scholars believe these two traditions represent an earlier source and a later source. One of the primary evidences for this argument is the fact that some of the added material is missing from the Septuagint (LXX). In a paper presented at the 2001 FAIR Conference, Benjamin McGuire presented evidence that Nephi, in borrowing from the story of David and Goliath, relied on a text that did not have the added or late material.{{ref|McGuire}} This would be in harmony with current scholarship of the Old Testament, which indicates that this material was added at the time of the captivity in Babylon, and certainly after Nephi had left Jerusalem with his Brass Plates.<br /> <br /> {{SeeAlso|Bible/Basics|l1=LDS statements about the Bible}}<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta notas}}<br /> <br /> # {{note|Barna}} The full survey, entitled &quot;Protestants, Catholics and Mormons Reflect Diverse Levels of Religious Activity,&quot; can be found at the Barna Web site at www.barna.org.<br /> # {{note|Seixas}} Perhaps as many as 120 members of the LDS Church studied under Seixas while he was in Kirtland.<br /> # {{note|Tov-Tigay}} See, for example, Emmanuel Tov, &quot;The Composition of 1 Samuel 16-18 in the Light of the Septuagint Version,&quot; in Jeffrey H. Tigay, ''Empirical Models for Biblical Criticism'' (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1985), 97-130.<br /> # {{note|McGuire}} Benjamin McGuire, &quot;Nephi and Goliath: A Reappraisal of the Use of the Old Testament in First Nephi&quot;{{fairlink|url=http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences/2001_Nephi_and_Goliath.html}} (text), or [[Topical_Guide/Multimedia_presentations/Videos/YouTube/FAIR_Conference/2001#Benjamin_McGuire_-_.22Nephi_and_Goliath:_A_Reappraisal_of_the_Use_of_the_Old_Testament_in_First_Nephi.22|video]].<br /> {{Articles Footer 1}} {{Articles Footer 2}} {{Articles Footer 3}} {{Articles Footer 4}} {{Articles Footer 5}} {{Articles Footer 6}} {{Articles Footer 7}} {{Articles Footer 8}} {{Articles Footer 9}} {{Articles Footer 10}}<br /> [[es:El Mormonismo y la Santa Biblia/Confiable]]<br /> [[en:Mormonism and the Bible/Trustworthy]]<br /> [[fr:Bible/Trustworthy]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=Pergunta:_Consideram_os_M%C3%B3rmons_a_B%C3%ADblia_como_indigna_de_confian%C3%A7a%3F&diff=79048 2014-05-31T19:05:48Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: </p> <hr /> <div>{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título de recursos|Do Latter-day Saints consider the Bible to be trustworthy?}}<br /> {{being translated}}<br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta pergunta}}<br /> <br /> It is claimed that Latter-day Saint leaders diminish the Bible as untrustworthy.<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta conclusão}} <br /> <br /> Do the Latter-day Saints detract from the Bible? Do they criticize it? No more so than the majority of Biblical scholars. <br /> <br /> Early LDS leaders' views on the problems with biblical inerrancy and biblical translation would seem mainstream to most today. Only those who completely reject modern biblical textual criticism would find LDS leaders' views radical or evil. In fact, LDS beliefs on the matter accord well with many other Christian denominations. Those who vilify LDS belief on this point tend to be at the extreme end of the debate about scriptural inerrancy, and would also reject a modern creedal, orthodox scholar's views.<br /> <br /> The Latter-day Saints believe that the Bible is true. It is inspired and inspiring, having been inspired by God and written by prophets, apostles, and disciples of Jesus Christ.<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta resposta}}<br /> <br /> In 1979, the Church produced its own King James Bible, complete with a set of footnotes and cross references, as well as translational notes and study helps. Prior to this publication, the Church purchased most of its King James Bibles from Cambridge University Press. Does this sound like an organization that is using the Bible merely as a public relations gimmick? If so, millions of members were never told. The Church and its members have a deep love and appreciation for the Word of God as found in the Bible. <br /> <br /> The bold assertion that the LDS do not value the Bible is amusing. There is no presentation of statistics, only anecdotal claims that first, LDS members do not read the Bible and are not familiar with it, and second, that they constantly hear from their leaders that the Bible is less than trustworthy.<br /> <br /> In a survey published in July 2001, Barna Research Group, Ltd. (BRG) made the following observations:<br /> <br /> :The study also revealed that barely half of all Protestant adults (54%) read the Bible during a typical week. Barna pointed out that Mormons are more likely to read the Bible during a week than are Protestants-even though most Mormons do not believe that the Bible is the authoritative Word of God.{{ref|Barna}}<br /> <br /> BRG is not affiliated with the LDS Church, nor was the LDS Church involved in the survey. Members of the LDS Church likewise would not categorize their faith in this fashion&amp;mdash;they ''do'', in fact, regard the Bible as authoritative and the Word of God. Yet the survey indicated that they certainly do read the Bible consistently. Also, over the course of two years out of every four years, every member of the Church is asked to read and study the entire text of the Bible as part of the Church's Sunday School curriculum. Asked by whom? By the leaders of the LDS Church.<br /> <br /> ===Early LDS study of biblical languages===<br /> <br /> One of the often-neglected events in LDS history happened in 1836. Joseph Smith arranged for a Hebrew scholar to come and teach Hebrew to the members of the LDS Church in Kirtland Ohio. The members of the Church had already been studying the Hebrew language, having purchased some grammars, a Hebrew Bible, and a lexicon, and had previously attempted to hire a teacher. The Hebrew scholar who came was Joshua Seixas. He spent several weeks instructing many of the members of the Church in Hebrew.{{ref|Seixas}} Why the interest in the Hebrew we might ask? Clearly it was to be able to (in the words of Pope Pius XII) 'explain the original text which, having been written by the inspired author himself, has more authority and greater weight than any even the very best translation, whether ancient or modern.'<br /> <br /> What this shows is that not only were the early LDS aware of the challenges associated with the Bible, but that they were just as interested in going back to the original language and to the original texts (if possible) as was the rest of Christendom who were aware of these discrepancies. Despite the critics' unfounded assertions to the contrary, there has never been a leader of the LDS Church who has ever suggested that the Bible was not suitable for study and for learning the Gospel due to any shortcomings it may have.<br /> <br /> ===The Book of Mormon on the Bible===<br /> <br /> Critics often discuss two of Nephi's statements regarding the Bible as found in the Book of Mormon. Nephi's perspective is that of modern Latter-day Saints: The Bible contains truth from God. However, it is still the work of men, and is only as reliable as the men who wrote, translated and copied it.<br /> <br /> It is interesting that the Book of Mormon itself has begun to be seen as a witness to the textual criticism of the Bible. Source critical theory of the Old Testament splits the story of David and Goliath into two separate accounts that were later merged into the common story that we have today.{{ref|Tov-Tigay}} Scholars believe these two traditions represent an earlier source and a later source. One of the primary evidences for this argument is the fact that some of the added material is missing from the Septuagint (LXX). In a paper presented at the 2001 FAIR Conference, Benjamin McGuire presented evidence that Nephi, in borrowing from the story of David and Goliath, relied on a text that did not have the added or late material.{{ref|McGuire}} This would be in harmony with current scholarship of the Old Testament, which indicates that this material was added at the time of the captivity in Babylon, and certainly after Nephi had left Jerusalem with his Brass Plates.<br /> <br /> {{SeeAlso|Bible/Basics|l1=LDS statements about the Bible}}<br /> <br /> == ==<br /> {{etiqueta notas}}<br /> <br /> # {{note|Barna}} The full survey, entitled &quot;Protestants, Catholics and Mormons Reflect Diverse Levels of Religious Activity,&quot; can be found at the Barna Web site at www.barna.org.<br /> # {{note|Seixas}} Perhaps as many as 120 members of the LDS Church studied under Seixas while he was in Kirtland.<br /> # {{note|Tov-Tigay}} See, for example, Emmanuel Tov, &quot;The Composition of 1 Samuel 16-18 in the Light of the Septuagint Version,&quot; in Jeffrey H. Tigay, ''Empirical Models for Biblical Criticism'' (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1985), 97-130.<br /> # {{note|McGuire}} Benjamin McGuire, &quot;Nephi and Goliath: A Reappraisal of the Use of the Old Testament in First Nephi&quot;{{fairlink|url=http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences/2001_Nephi_and_Goliath.html}} (text), or [[Topical_Guide/Multimedia_presentations/Videos/YouTube/FAIR_Conference/2001#Benjamin_McGuire_-_.22Nephi_and_Goliath:_A_Reappraisal_of_the_Use_of_the_Old_Testament_in_First_Nephi.22|video]].<br /> {{Articles Footer 1}} {{Articles Footer 2}} {{Articles Footer 3}} {{Articles Footer 4}} {{Articles Footer 5}} {{Articles Footer 6}} {{Articles Footer 7}} {{Articles Footer 8}} {{Articles Footer 9}} {{Articles Footer 10}}<br /> [[es:El Mormonismo y la Santa Biblia/Confiable]]<br /> [[en:Mormonism and the Bible/Trustworthy]]<br /> [[fr:Bible/Trustworthy]]</div>

GabrielAlmeida https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/index.php?title=Mormonismo_e_a_B%C3%ADblia_Sagrada/Pr%C3%A1ticas_do_Velho_Testamento&diff=79018 2014-05-14T22:44:42Z

<p>GabrielAlmeida: Criou página com: &#039;{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}} {{título do recurso|Mormonismo e a Bíblia Sagrada/Práticas do Velho Testamento}} {{resumo dos assuntos}} == == {{tópicos rótulo}...&#039;</p> <hr /> <div>{{artigos FairMormon direitos autorais}}<br /> {{título do recurso|Mormonismo e a Bíblia Sagrada/Práticas do Velho Testamento}}<br /> {{resumo dos assuntos}}<br /> == ==<br /> {{tópicos rótulo}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{cabeçalho<br /> |link=Mormonismo e a Bíblia Sagrada/Práticas do Velho Testamento<br /> |assunto=Práticas do Velho Testamento<br /> |resumo=<br /> }}<br /> {{resumo<br /> |link=Mormonismo e a Bíblia Sagrada/O sacrifício de animais<br /> |assunto=O sacrifício de animais<br /> |resumo=Alega-se que Joseph Smith tenha favorecido &quot;práticas do Antigo Testamento&quot;, incluindo a &quot;prática de sacrifício de animais.&quot;<br /> }}<br /> {{resumo<br /> |link=Mormonismo e a Bíblia Sagrada/Amaldiçoando inimigos<br /> |assunto=Amaldiçoando inimigos<br /> |resumo=Alguns Cristãos alegam que Joseph Smith focalizou em ideias e conceitos do Velho Testamento, como &quot;amaldiçoar inimigos&quot;. Tais críticos apelam para proibições do Novo Testamento de tal prática (Rom 12:14, e então clamam que escrituras restauradas e declarações de líderes da Igreja são inconsistentes com o mandamento Cristão de &quot;abençoar, e não amaldiçoar&quot;)<br /> }}<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Articles Footer 1}}<br /> [[en:Mormonism and the Bible/Old Testament practices]]<br /> [[es:El Mormonismo y la Santa Biblia/El Mormonismo y la Santa Biblia/Prácticas del Antiguo Testamento]]</div>

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